User blog comment:Lamango/So um, guys, there's a new Ultra Series wiki./@comment-691135-20140902223141/@comment-691135-20140903184851

"1st NBA Jammer can you please link the so called harassing posts that you were given by Tsuru23? As far as the real events Tsuru sent each of the admins ONE note informing you that you must give our wiki credit for any of our material used on your new site. Which you replied “all of it was our material” which was obviously untrue at that time but no credit was to be given to our Wiki. This is when we sent a note to DChallofJustice about the issue of possible plagiarism by the site that you are the founder of and actively in oversight of. Also the other few notes you received about plagiarism were only after your group changed the links and our users started to get sent to your new site the when they began to see our material on your site they started to post to you comments about plagiarism. This was not our doing, we had no idea the links were changed until later so your initial paragraph of accusations here has no merit at all. So you adding and manipulating the events and items concerning this situation in your above post to us are very inaccurate and seem to be willfully done by you for some reason."

I can link them, but you won't be able to see them. Tsuru has the ability to tell from ultraseries.wikia.com that Dchallofjustice is not an admin and thus has no power over the wiki. Therefore going to him and whining is nothing short of harassment. When Digi removed the posts, he marked it as untrue - which it is. Tsuru then comes back, sees that the message is gone, and puts it back (violating the no admin revert rule), whining to Dchallofjustice (an inactive admin) about helping resolve an issue on UM wiki (which is not an admin of, per the front page). That is called harassment (also a rule violation). Therefore the post was removed again and the offender (Tsuru) blocked accordingly. At the time, two things were prevalent (and really still are though I've erred on the second as a gesture of goodwill): 1) Content that Digi, Digifiend, or myself took from Ultra Wiki is our own content - as authors of the work we are permitted to take it and use it as we see fit, up to and including adapting it to fit the needs of another wiki; and 2) Any other content we did not take (verifiable by looking at page histories - you DID look at the page histories didn't you?) we have no way to know where it comes from when it is added - if we don't know it came from Ultra Wiki, we can't act on it. The (false) accusation is that we plagiarised Ultra Wiki - the page histories clearly show we did not. Here is one example: http://ultraseries.wikia.com/index.php?title=Father_Burai&diff=4912&oldid=4502. Now lets look at the top and see what's going on here. Left side is the old version. It saysDigi created the page and you can see below that the content is blank save for our templates (which were in use on RangerWiki long before Ultra Wiki joined the hub, and therefore are usable). On the right, we can see considerable content addition. Hmmmm, who could have added that? If we look at the top, we see:

Revision as of 02:34, August 24, 2014 (edit)(undo) 769185 (wall | contribs | block) Newer edit →

Last time I checked, my username was Nbajammer. Digi's was Digi. And Digifiend's is Digifiend. 769185 does not appear to match any of those. Therefore claims that we plagiarised Ultra Wiki are already false. The content was added by a 3rd party, and there is no indication where this content came from. Since Tsuru's note did not state the content was from Ultra Wiki, and he was accusing US falsely, we have no reason to act immediately because for all we know, 769185 wrote up the content. Only later are we told the content is from Ultra Wiki (which should have been expressed in the beginning). Upon investigating, we discovered that 769185 could very well have copied from Ultra Wiki, which is why if I then click on Newer edit, we see this:

Latest revision as of 02:05, September 2, 2014 (edit)(undo) Digi (wall | contribs | block)   [rollback] m (Reverted edits by 769185 (talk | block) to last version by Digi)

At this point the content is restored to the last version before any content was taken. And as my previous posting indicated, the user was banned for 6 months. The links were changed the moment the vote was taken to expel Ultra Wiki. This is called natural progression of events, not manipulation.

"2nd You seem to give generalities of ‘harassment and violations ect’ that really turn out not to be those things at all. What they really turn out to be are different views and ways to handle issues that are different than your own, which you do not agree with. There are no rule breakings or true harassment by the Ultraman wiki at all. This is what we have observed from the time we have dealt with you. And now you have been so angry about the outcome of these issues that you are seemingly setting up a way to get rid of the Utraman wiki for no real reasons at all except personal reasons it seems. Therefore if you do not answer our questions here so we can validate your claims of our mistakes that are listed in this latest post of yours and the assorted assumed mistakes that you point to, your post here will be removed and any additional post you make regarding this issue will be removed. If you answer these you also help us in seeing things which we may have missed. "

There is no generality in anything. Attempting to pull an inactive admin who has no direct connection to the wiki involved utilizing knowingly false information is harassment. So too is repeatedly accusing us of doing something we have not done instead of doing due diligence. Tokupedia's rules were violated and the offender was punished. We do not excuse allies from our rules. That is how and why you got blocked for the initial incident. As far as me setting up a way to get rid of Ultra Wiki for no reason, we have documented in multiple places the offenses your wiki has committed while a member of the hub. I'm not going to re-paste them here. At this point you and Tsuru are whining because you were once again caught doing things you shouldn't have been doing, and doing other things you should but in an erroneous manner. These actions caused Ultra Wiki's expulsion, which you seem to not want yet have acted very much in defiance of per previous postings by myself and by Aldo. If you want to remove my posts, then I will thank you for your confession, and your removal will be further justified by attempting to cover up your irresponsible behavior.

"3rd And for user 769185, it quite obvious that you were not in the dark when he was adding our content to your wiki. Your staff on your Ultraman wiki began editing the pages with our content very quickly after they were posted, changing it around a bit so it would suit your format to appear as your own work. And you only banned him and started removing our content after you understood we contacted the Wikia Staff and Dchallofjustice. So your initial response to our inquiry of plagiarism was incorrect when you said it was all your own material, because at that time you had taken nothing off or banned User 769185. So the second part of your post above is rendered meaningless also, as you still had our content on your site at that time. "

Actually it is quite obvious that we were - we can continue editing pages while determining where content came from. It is our job to work on our wiki, not spend all day scouring the web on the slightest possibility that a 3rd party might have copied from somewhere on the internet. We banned him and removed your content once it was properly brought to our attention that the content was taken from Ultra Wiki without authorization. Therefore my post has extreme meaning, and your whining about it will only prove it to be further correct.

"NBAJammer we cannot take your comments in your above post as helping this situation without you answering these questions for us. "

I don't need to help the situation. Ultra Wiki has been expelled and replaced by our own Ultraman Wiki, based on our content. I can try to answer any questions you may have, but it is already clear you will only accept answers you want to hear. You guys messed up, got caught, got punished, and are now whining to us about it. It would be quite right if I wanted to just ignore you further at this point.

"A: Please show us by a link the first time you informed us that we are out of the Toku hub by toku hub vote."

The toku hub vote was taken via means for which I am unable to link you. You were out of the hub the morning that Tsuru attacked us.

"B: Assuming you read the posted discussion of the Tsuru23 and Dc Toku agreement, do you still stand by your accusations in your post above that we are still in violations of our agreement? Yes or No - Or are these arguments and outcomes just a personal dislike by yourself - Yes or No? "

I have proven your violations of our rules and your actions in working against the hub, and your incessant whining about it and childish attempts to bully me (and failing at that) only further prove that you are in violation of the agreement. You and Tsuru already know you screwed up - this post I am replying to is nothing more than a whiny rant I can (and probably should) just ignore. Therefore you already know the answer to this - but your pride will not let you answer it the way you should.

"C: Why is it that after we contacted the Wikia Staff and Dchallofjustice about the possible plagiarism of our site, you started removing our wiki's info from your wiki's content that just happened to be the pages we sent to DC to look at?"

I already answered this question at least twice - we did not know where the content originally came from. We ourselves did not plagiarise your site. A 3rd party user did. I removed spam and harassment from our wikis, which do not belong there. I removed Tsuru's posts on our Ultraman Wiki additionally because he was out of line in attacking us.

"D: Why are you the founder of an Ultraman site that was founded three months ago, that suspiciously has a good deal of our site content, when we were at the time the Ultraman site in your Toku Hub group already? "

I am going to quote you in response to this question - "We never meant to offend you and we certainly don't have an issue if you make your own wiki (as it's excusable via creative commons)". Therefore this question is null.

I do not mind answering questions - but I will not be harassed, and the decision will not be reversed.