User blog comment:SolZen321/Ginga and Lugiel Theory/@comment-1733689-20150116005432

While this does sound interesting, I still can't find out where Retsuden showed that Ginga and Lugiel were once one. I see them talking together in some null void then parting ways, but that doesn't seem to suggest they were once a single being to me.

Also, If Lugiel is Ginga's dark side, then isn't he technically an Ultra?