Talk:Ultraman Saga (character)/@comment-69.165.208.7-20151231052445/@comment-5527544-20160406114033

Firstly, Ginga Storium is not OP, he just has access to an OP attack, the Beam Taro used when fused with all Previous Ultra Brothers, and an upgraded version using his own Ginga Especially. Besides those two attacks, he's not much stronger than your typical Ultra, nor anymore durable, in fact, for the entirety of the fight against Hyper Zetton, he was getting beat up, him and Victory, just like Zero, Cosmos and Dyna, and this was by a Spark Doll version controlled by someone who was not as good a fighter as the original. Saga on the other hand, was able to physically compete with Hyper Zetton, something Ginga Storium could not do, even with Victory's help.

Secondly, Ginga Victory was only about near the level of Ultimate Mode Zero, whom Etelgar kept running away from, and both where able to physically overpower, with Zero doing easier than Ginga Victory. This ultimately Ginga Victory is way weaker than Shinning Zero.

Ginga Victory doesn't even show any signs of being on Legend's level, another merger of two Ultras, which means him being above Noa and King, two Ultra long held as being in the same general area of power, is absurd, especially since those two are officially considered the strongest of Ultras.

Then Saga, a three Ultra Fusion, instead of two, who has possibly the most OP Ultra as part of his composition, who fought Hyper Zetton to a draw, and then later overpowered him. Ginga and Victory only won because they used electrical attacks to stun Zetton long enough for Ginga to use the Cosmo Miracle Beam, Taro Super Ultra form beam.

Again, Ginga may have access to a Super Ultra level attack, but he's not a Super Ultra, even Victory could keep up with him.